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As someone who frequently leaves stuff in peoples cars, it's all your fault!

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It's not nice to leave shit in people's cars.

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Good and fun concept - sharing the chats and having people evaluate. My two cents:

Your conversation was very little about etiquette surrounding handling items left in one's car by another or even the process and principles that may arise in this situation.

Let's loosely relate it to Eckhart Tolle's ego-identity model to see if we can discover what was really going on.

It appears the conversation was mostly a battle of pride, which is an emotion that often arises when the ego takes a defensive stance.

Both your starting and ending questions are defenses. "Are you seriously mad?" is a challenge from the ego in you to the ego in Servando. "I'm right" might as well be the motto for the life of an ego, what it's fortress walls are made of and what each bullet it shoots from inside the fortress screams.

Meanwhile the ego in Servando is running haywire. What he says appears mostly as attempts to meet several egoic needs such as reconciliation with a friend, having the last word, tricking itself into being "over it", and pride in maintaining the position he chose on the etiquette in this situation.

His ego seems to have chosen this position because when he remembered the license plate frame his ego had a feeling of loss of identity that it provided him and so he imagined the ideal behavior that would have brought the item back to him.

Notice how I have been speaking of the ego as detached from you and Servando. It is because your actual self and being is not represented in the conversation, just your egos.

Your actual selves are aware this whole incident is trivial. They realize the items left in the car, the feelings associated with the conversation about them when it was brought up are all in the past and that they are not relevant to the Present, which is the only place and time you actually exist.

The license plate frame and the emotions feel relevant because there is a sense that as friend's you need to be at peace with each other, but that is actually just an egoic concern. You'd be at peace without the ego's attachments to the material things and emotions of the past.

The awareness that your actual being, who you actually are doesn't need these things to FEEL alive is a first step toward the dissolution of the ego and the ability to be fully engaged in the present, which is the only time and place in which you actually exist. Sure, use the memory of the experience to learn, but the attachments and emotions have no need to persist.

By the way, where does the ego come from? The ego comes from the illusion that we are separate entities from everything else in the world of our perception.

This is my best attempt at describing the nature of your chat drawing from Tolle's ego-identity model and my own experience/philosophy!

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Chris had quite a lot to say about that g-chat. Wow. Eric, if you would like me 2 cents, here it is....
You found a Raiders license plate cover in your car.....I think you have to assume it probably belongs Servando. But since the Raiders are worthless, you did the right thing by throwing it away.

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i like this part of the post:
"Servando:
i wasnt mad
but i am annoyed
i know its my fault
for leaving shit in your car
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